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(no subject) [Mar. 21st, 2006|12:59 pm]
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awful_jackass
Military Hides Cause of Women Soldiers' Deaths

From the article:

Last week, Col. Janis Karpinski told a panel of judges at the Commission of Inquiry for Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration in New York that several women had died of dehydration because they refused to drink liquids late in the day. They were afraid of being assaulted or even raped by male soldiers if they had to use the women's latrine after dark.

The latrine for female soldiers at Camp Victory wasn't located near their barracks, so they had to go outside if they needed to use the bathroom. "There were no lights near any of their facilities, so women were doubly easy targets in the dark of the night," Karpinski told retired US Army Col. David Hackworth in a September 2004 interview. It was there that male soldiers assaulted and raped women soldiers. So the women took matters into their own hands. They didn't drink in the late afternoon so they wouldn't have to urinate at night. They didn't get raped. But some died of dehydration in the desert heat, Karpinski said.

Karpinski testified that a surgeon for the coalition's joint task force said in a briefing that "women in fear of getting up in the hours of darkness to go out to the port-a-lets or the latrines were not drinking liquids after 3 or 4 in the afternoon, and in 120 degree heat or warmer, because there was no air-conditioning at most of the facilities, they were dying from dehydration in their sleep."


I'm guessing this story is at least mostly bullshit, if not complete bullshit.
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9/11 and 7/7 [Aug. 23rd, 2005|09:41 am]
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dojothemouse
So um. Straw poll. I'm not a paid member.
  1. Do you think that a member of the US gov't knew about 9/11 before it happened?
  2. Do you think that a member of the US gov't was involved in planning 9/11?
  3. Do you think that a member of the UK government was involved in planning 7/7?
  4. Do you think that Cuban guy was killed as part of a coverup?
There's this guy on my friends list on slasdot that keeps posting conspiracy theories and he's wearing down my ability to reason. At this point I have absolutely no idea. Is anyone out there actively debunking this stuff? I suspect that people in a position to do so probably don't think it's worth debunking.
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Interesting theory on 43things.com [Feb. 9th, 2005|12:57 am]
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monkiegrrrl
Hey there folks! Mighty quiet out there... I'm new to this group and wanted to know what you all think about this one:

Am-z-n’s 4t3 secrets
Why does the Web’s biggest retailer want you to confide your hopes, dreams and aspirations to a Web site called 4t3 Things? It’s not telling.
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By Katharine Mieszkowski

Feb. 8, 2005 | Remember that famous New Yorker cartoon “On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog”?
Revise that. On the Internet, nobody knows you’re Am-z-n.com, if you hide behind the friendly face of an independent start-up.
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I found it here

Any thoughts?
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MicroBiologists Murdered Globally....or just Coincidences? [Jan. 17th, 2005|10:20 pm]
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nine_while_nine
[Current Music |team sleep - boulevard nights]

Hi. I'm new. Check this out:

The Story of the Most Recent Microbiologist Killed Published Sunday, January 9, 2005

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Apparently this has been going on for some time now. Microbiologists from all over the world have been dying in very suspicious ways, many of which are clearly homicides. Who would want to kill off all of the worlds leading microbiologists and why. This scares me. Read more...Collapse )
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Arafat Had AIDS? [Nov. 13th, 2004|02:58 am]
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fraterachdae
[Current Mood |amusedamused]
[Current Music |"Bereavement" by Insomnium]

A friend of the family brought this up to me a few days ago, and I wanted to get everybody's take on it, any facts anybody might have, etc. This woman proposed the idea that perhaps Arafat died of complications related to AIDS, as evidenced by the following:

"Arafat had been sick with an unknown illness that had been variously described as the flu, a stomach virus or gallstones.

He flew to Paris October 29 seeking medical treatment and was hospitalized with what Palestinian officials said was a blood disorder." ~http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/10/arafat.obit/index.html

How could an illness be described as all of those FOUR different illnesses? It's possible Arafat had all four of those problems, but if he had AIDS those problems would have had an easier time taking-hold.

In recent news footage of the Palestinian leader being helped out of a car, he bent his head to kiss the hand of the man who helped him. The man very quickly pulled his hand away from Arafat before he could land the thankful kiss. Obviously, HIV is not transferred this way, but many people the world over are still superstitious and over-cautious about the disease.

None of this is conclusive, of course, which is why I brought it to you folks for your opinions and anything else you can add.
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Civilization Sprouted Overnight? [Nov. 9th, 2004|09:22 am]
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somnambulisa
I mean to debunk the commonly held belief that we existed for 140,000 years before creating civilizations. I am not positing that there has ever been an advanced global civilization, nor one as advanced as ours, just that civilizations have existed before ours.

There are "anomolous" pieces of evidence1 of homo sapiens sapiens and ancient human civilizations that are avoided and ignored by modern scientists.

In at least 130,000 years of existence, homo sapiens sapiens has been confronted by several catastrophic earth changes2 which would have whittled the human population down to little, and would explain why something as huge as Bimini Road is now submerged. If it took us only 10,000 years to go from the agricultural revolution to the internet, it seems ridiculous to believe that homo sapiens sapiens spent one of their 25,000-year crisis-free lulls doing nothing but hunting, gathering and making cave-paintings.

Each time a new archaeological discovery is made, it seems that pre-historians have to go back and rewrite their books, and/or we discover that some ancient myth had inside of it much truth. Even now, if you search on the internet, you will find many websites still proclaiming that homo sapiens sapiens has only been around for 50,000 years or 80,000 years... when the most recent discovery is of a homo sapiens sapiens (a creature just like you and I, with the same size brain - i.e., us) that lived 130,000 years ago.

The human race did survive the last ice age, and human civilizations do tend to develop in deltas and along coastlines... the very areas which would have experienced the most horrific effects of the climate changes brought about by the end of an ice age, and the very areas which would be submerged. Didn't they find the ancient city of Troy under the Mediterranean sea?

Here's what I'm getting at: Current archaeological experts insist that homo sapiens sapiens, though crawling the earth for (at the latest count) about 130,000 years, just began forming villages 13,000 years ago, planting crops 9,000 years ago, and built the Sphinx 2,500 years ago. Rain-weathering on the Sphinx dates its creation at 7,000 years ago, at least. The argument against a more ancient Sphinx is that the limestone it's made of is lower quality than the surrounding limestone structures. This argument actually supports the idea that the other structures are as ancient as the Sphinx more than it negates the theory that the Sphinx is at least 7,000 years old, since it does not explain how rain-weathering occurred in a region that hasn't seen the requisite amount of annual rainfall in 7,000 years.

If the Sphinx hadn't been covered in sand for thousands of years and then restored and protected by the Egyptian government, it would be no more than a bump in the desert right now. What's more, it was rediscovered by accident. For a long time, it was thought to be just a head, since that was all that was visible above the natural ground. Whether or not there is anything further beneath the Sphinx, beneath the sand, is outside of the scope of this post. For something like the Sphinx to have been built, and to have accidentally escaped being completely weathered away since then, opens up the possibility that civilizations of the magnitude required to build such a structure have existed before and have vanished without traces.

My assertion is that all of the anomolous archaeological discoveries point to the idea that homo sapiens sapiens has been around for MUCH longer than 130,000 years, and has developed civilizations of pre-industrialization levels of advancement many times before, in many places. It's not a concerted effort at conspiracy, but we (as a civilization) deny this possibility out of vanity alone.

I mean for this to be simply an introductory post, as this idea is one of my favorite chew-toys. Up for debunking are the claims of anomolous evidence of advanced human civilization, claims of ancient climate disturbance and causes, and the logic used to deduce that civilization didn't just spring up 10,000 years ago after people like us had been on the earth for 120,000-140,000 years prior to that. I am denying the exponential growth theory, that amazing idea that we hunted and gathered for 140,000 years, then suddenly decided to domesticate animals, raise crops, etc. I find that theory to be ridiculous, and I welcome anyone to try and prove that it makes sense.

1. Anomolous pieces of evidence of homo sapiens sapiens and ancient human civilizationsCollapse )

2. Evidence of catastrophic earth changesCollapse )

Apologies to anyone who has seen a similar argument before. I also apologize for posting something so far-reaching and full of "debatables" for the first real post, but I figure some elements may provide fuel for future posts, at least.
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Request for links [Nov. 6th, 2004|08:12 pm]
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somnambulisa
[Current Mood |boredbored]

The community moderators are currently accepting suggestions for credible critical analysis websites (such as snopes.com) to list in the community info. Comment here with suggestions.

Edit: Also, the community's list of conspiracy theorists seems a bit left-heavy. Suggestions for right-wing or conservative US partisan conspiracy theory sources are also requested.
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